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The People of Heather's Songs
The Jasmine Flower
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Note: Heather, if you read this and are uncomfortable with this, please let us know and we'll take it down. I have avoided doing this before but it feels like you've been open recently about how your songs connect to your experiences so I'm going to go ahead and compile this to help myself and other fans look back through your decades of songs in another way, perhaps, and maybe find new connections. But I know these are still just songs and not everything is literal and I am certain I have left things out and gotten other things incorrect. I am trying to stay at a very high level and not trying to invade privacy, sticking to things you've said publicly or themes shared through songs.

I have left out songs that don't have any telling clues even though they address someone, including a lot of love songs. Who knows if they were written about someone in particular or are just songs? So you won't see Just Been Born here or other such songs, no matter how powerful they are. You will see London Rain because the place and context give me enough of a hint that I think I can put it on the Felix list. I also am putting relationship songs that involve long distance or communication issues in the Felix list cause based on connect and themes going through the decades, I see a theme running through them and I have a hunch these are all about that relationship. I am probably wrong about some of them and have missed others but so it goes.

I've listed some songs that are very hard to find and that were released only privately. I can't share these. I'm sorry. Hopefully they will become available again in the future.

If you have feedback on songs you disagree with where I've listed them or that I've left out, please let me know! I actually just through this together on the fly based on stuff I've thought about for a long, long time but I'm sure I've forgotten a lot of stuff, especially B-Sides. I'll do a second draft later.

Some of the Songs About Other Specific People may be about the same people but I'm not going to speculate.

When I list a song with (?) I am saying it's possibly about this person but I am not sure. I feel like Shaking The Doll was said to be about something else but it sure fits with some things but I'll take it out if we're sure it's not the same as The Painter

I am referring to the older, abusive individual that Island and other songs were about as The Painter as a reference to the line in I'm Alive, "your hands were covered in paint." I could also call him Vermonter based on the Vermont Transit Bus, or The American, or whatever, but I'll just go with that since that's what we've called him before.

I could give everyone nicknames but we all know who Felix, Vincent, Mishka, Susannah, and Sebastian are and their names are not hidden.


"The Painter"
Susannah (tertiary)
To Sea
(Guardian Angel?)
(Shaking The Doll?)
Island
Blue Black
Sugar
I'm Alive
Six Years Behind
Over The Fields

To Sea and Guardian Angel sound much more gentle than later songs but there are enough dark themes about escape that I believe they're likely about the same person given when they were recorded. I could be wrong. But To Sea seems to be about leaving America to flee The Painter.

Susannah (sister)
Susannah
Throwing Fire At The Sun
Blue Black (tertiary)
See Yourself

Mishka (brother)
Bare
Drink It In
Blue-Eyed Lion

Felix
(All The Way?)
London Rain
Heart And Shoulder
(Blood Of Me?)
If I Saw You In A Movie
Help Me Be Good To You
It's Only Love
Talk To Me
The Girl
The Bower Bird
The Poison
Storm
Everytime
Fool For You
Beautiful Storm
Maybe Tomorrow
Say Something
Stay
The Archaeologist
Lie Down In The Bed You've Made
On My Radar
Sleeping Dogs
Sea Change
The Wounds We Bled
Some Things Just Come Undone

As noted earlier, I included the relationship songs with themes of distance and communication issues here as I see a lot of connection, but I am likely wrong about some of these. Probably there are many others about Felix but I am only including the ones with some connection to those themes or other clues like London. Stay and the songs on The Way It Feels are pretty obvious.

Sebastian (son)
Motherland
The Sun Will Always Rise
If I Should Die
Precious Thing
Treehouse
Moon River Days
The Archaeologist
Some Things Just Come Undone

Vincent
After All This Time
Just Kids
Don't Worry What The Experts Say
Vincent
Your Words

Songs About Other Specific People
Walking Higher
Valley Of Sound
The Abandon
One Day In June
(Let's Not Talk About Love?)
You Left Me A Song
I Wanna Be Your Light
When The Music Stops
Singing You Through
Girl On The Mountain
My Father
Drive Away

Posted on: 7/9 18:44
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Brilliant list !

I guess most of love songs on Siren and South are about Felix.

Posted on: 7/9 19:01
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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These Walls is about someone, too.

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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Oh right, good point about These Walls! I included songs she's talked about a little who it's about or where there's some figure we learn things about if that makes sense?

And yeah, if you want to listen to the full arc of Felix songs, probably songs like Walk This World could be included but I never know who those were really about unless there's some other detail. Maybe they date from before that?

New Love could have gotten tertiary painter mention as maybe that's a a song about recovery, but I don't think it's enough about him to include songs like that on the list.

Posted on: 7/9 20:33
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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We'lll end up having a list of "probably / possibly Felix" songs.

Posted on: 7/9 23:06
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Oh, I see the "you" in One Day In June is also likely Felix. "Try to be the one you can count on but oh it's a thin disguise".

Similar to The Poison.

Posted on: 7/9 23:39
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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On one hand your analysis is surely close, on the other hand I am focused on just the song without the reason to why it got composed. Sure it might help the reason behind to understand, but I think i was just composed to express Heather nature and feelings. And that is what I want to learn and discover.

Posted on: 7/10 22:15
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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I like to get the story behind the songs.

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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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And that's what we've always done. I just wanted to see how listening to songs like this might be enlightening.

Posted on: 7/10 23:07
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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I totally forgot about that, Bernd! OMG.

Posted on: 7/11 1:35
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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I forgot Mesmerized for Sebastian!

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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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What about 'I miss my sky' (about other people) ?

Posted on: 7/14 2:03
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Oh, good catch. I meant to put that in Songs About Other People but forgot.

I have a personal theory that the song is far more autobiographical than it it appears, though.

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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Not sure if it fits in these categories, but the song Sail On is a poem by Heather's father A. John Frith, while Heather composed the music.

Posted on: 7/14 10:51
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Yeah, I thought of that one, but it's written by her father rather than being about him so i left it out.

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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Who is Vincent - Vincent van Gogh?

Posted on: 10/16 18:46
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Quote:

perry wrote:
Who is Vincent - Vincent van Gogh?

Vincent Lions.
French photographer living in Canada (and Bermuda now).
Since 2017 or 2018 Heather's boyfriend.
https://www.instagram.com/p/By7wVYTh1cs/
https://vincentlions.com/working-with-heather-nova/

Posted on: 10/16 23:17
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Re: The People of Heather's Songs
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Btw :

Songs About Other Specific People
Walking Higher - Heather's Grandma
Valley Of Sound - Jeff Buckley
The Abandon
One Day In June
(Let's Not Talk About Love?)
You Left Me A Song
I Wanna Be Your Light
When The Music Stops
Singing You Through
Girl On The Mountain - a friends of hers
My Father - her father
Drive Away

I knew, for You Left Me A Song. but I forgot.

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