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Bush fighting for more 'green energy'
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In his speech to the Congress, president George W Bush made propaganda for more so called "green energy". This 'green energy' would need to make the USA less dependant of foreign oil, which needs to be imported from instable countries in the Middle-East.
Bush said that he is worried about Americans getting too addicted to oil (literarly said !)

Also, Bush said the USA needs to maintain its position as global superforce, and needs to focus on foreign affairs and fighting terrorism, as this will lead to a safer domestic atmosphere as well, according to Bush.
Bush declared to be very enthousiast about the situation in the Middle-East, where democracy is slowly growing and where the USA is on winning stroke in Iraq.

Source: VRT.be news




My opinion: where does Bush get it that the situation in the Middle-East is looking good?
Iraq is far from a stable politcal entity, and there's still riots all over the place that come close to guerrilla's. In Afghanistan, Kabul is more or less under control, but once outside the capital it's absolute chaos and anarchy, a true survival of the fittest. Surely Bush can't be serious that he calls this a good situation?!

Also, Bush declaring that Americans are too attached to oil, is a bit of a kettle blaming the pot situation. Unless he delivers a proof of mass-destruction weapons in Iraq, it's hard to believe he didn't go there at least partly because of the oil resources...

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:52
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Re: Days of absence
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How could I forget about this place? I always enjoyed coming here, which hasn't changed. It's only in the more difficult periods that sometimes my internet rituals (the sites I frequent) get disturbed.

I have had psychological issues for all my life, but the last 8 years in particular were very hard. I tried a few therapies yet, which improved the situation but did not clear the problems completely. I am now giving it another attempt, hoping that this therapy does the trick.

Mind the therapy focuses on the depressions and only on that. The Asperger Syndrome is something which cannot be cured and is something I just have to live with as well as I can. Hopefully the counceling can get me rid of other issues though.

It's up and downs, good days followed by bad days and back. However, I try not to let it get me down, and am undertaking a few short city trips the coming two months, which will be a welcome distraction...

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:45
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Funamental religious film reviews site
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http://www.capalert.com/capreports/

Although not meant as a joke, this site has some hilarious content. A fundamental Christian version of those movie review sites. It's remarkable how many details they have! It's like their reviewer sits in a cinema with his notebook and Bible and writes down any 'unholy' scene in the movie...

Even ET gets a bad score from them!:
Wanton Violence/Crime (W):
# brother holding sister to shut her up
# leaving a seven year old girl alone in the house
# riding a bike off the edge of a cliff
# breaking and entering
# boy out all night alone
# adolescent trespassing
# home invasion by science team
# car theft with endangerment
# running from police
Impudence/Hate (I)(1):
# young boys ignoring guardian's commands
# potty talk
# foul insult by adolescent
# five uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary by an adolescent
# lying about illness to manipulate and deceive
# adolescent yelling at and arguing with mom
# mischief by adolescent
Sex/Homosexuality (S):
# adolescent trying to inappropriately touch adult woman
Drugs/Alcohol (D):
# smoking
# drinking beer
Offense to God (O)(2):
# five uses of God's name in vain without the four letter expletive, thrice by an adolescent and twice by an adult
Murder/Suicide (M)(3):
# none noted


Some nice ones from the site:


from "Alive":
Impudence/Hate (I)(1):
one use of the most foul of the foul words
15 uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary
defiance of rightful authority
want of suicide
desire to eat pilots for food as revenge because they caused the crash

Sex/Homosexuality (S):
inappropriate touch for the sake of extricating a dead body

Drugs/Alcohol (D):
smoking, almost uncountable
drinking, repeatedly
drinking to celebrate

Offense to God (O)(2):
"Well, He put us here!"
I don't think God cares whether we're civilized."

Murder/Suicide (M)(3):
none noted



Children's hero Harry Potter also doesn't get through the religious filter

Wanton Violence/Crime (W):
imprisonment of a child, repeatedly
physical abuse by caregivers, repeatedly
firearm threat with discharge
"Anyone who stood up against him ended up dead."
floating evil being drinking blood from an animal's neck
floating evil being threatening a child
attack of children by a huge three-headed dog, repeatedly
bloody injury
animated chess game with lives at stake, graphic
willingness to commit suicide to enable victory of friends
evil face on the back of a head
orders to kill a boy
attempted murder
threat of death for disobedience
ghost removing his head
great falls, repeatedly
attack by a giant troll
giant troll swinging a club at a child, repeatedly
threat of harm to force compliance
brutality
burning flesh
crumbling flesh

Impudence/Hate (I)(1):
two uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary
abusive caregivers
child screaming at his parents
parents submitting to child's screaming
adolescent arrogance
lie to prevent accountability
adolescent meanness to others, repeatedly
children wandering about alone in a forest at night
planning disobedience and disobedience of rules
lie
bully threat
lies to protect
brutal sports tactics with audience of children cheering it on
invisibility to sneak, repeatedly
encouragement by an adult to a child to break the rules to get even

Sex/Homosexuality (S):
none noted

Drugs/Alcohol (D):
smoking

Offense to God (O)(2):
witchcraft/sorcery to control others, repeatedly
transfiguration
levitation, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery to get even
boy conversing with a snake
witchcraft/sorcery to start fires, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery to grow tail on a boy
community of witches and wizards
goblins, ghosts, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery to destroy property
"You're a wizard, Harry"
"Not all wizards are good"
disappearance by witchcraft/sorcery

casting spells, repeatedly
manifestations in mirror
mirror to show deepest desires
elixir of life to make immortal
half man, half horse beast
protection by unholy force
broom riding, repeatedly
attempted murder with witchcraft/sorcery, repeatedly
offer to resurrect parents by unholy force
"There is no good or evil. There's only power" (Voldemort)
talking witches hat
witchcraft/sorcery to create food
paintings with moving subjects, repeatedly
teaching the use of potions to control others and even "stopper" death
evil eyes, repeatedly
witchcraft/sorcery incantation to do harm
Christmas without Jesus
invisibility by witchcraft/sorcery
face in pain protruding from book pages
demon cat; witch's familiar
evil passing through boy's body, causing unconsciousness
witchcraft/sorcery to change flag colors
unholy possession

Murder/Suicide (M)(3):
tale of many murders
murder of teacher by unholy possession



Last but not least, the latest hit: King Kong!

Shame on you Mr. Director, Peter Jackson! May God's judgment fall upon you for dragging out this sick film again, and I pray that you receive great suffering at the hands of Jesus Christ in the fires of Hell for having the outright audacity to glorify the sin of bestiality on such a grand scale!



And a wee competitor is this similar site: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/movies.html

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:40
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Re: "Filthy" jokes
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Another 18+ one



A man is quite .... and rushes home, thinking of a night of 'rocking the Casbah'
At home, he finds his wife in bed. Entering the bed, clearly trying to get her going, she says: "not tonight, love. I meet my gyneacologist tomorrow, and want to be clean and pure". The husband lays down disappointed, then suddenly says: "Hey, you don't have a dentist appointment tomorrow, do you?"

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:27
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Re: Shit happens.... sometimes
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Quote:

Cassander wrote:
Nothing wrong with meeting people on the internet. Most of the time it's fine. In real life you can meat crazies too, ya know...


Well, just as a joke I did visit this odd dating site: www.gothicdating.nl
GothicFairy

Must admit, some of these girls are quite fit However, it seems so forced. I mean, it's a bit of a last resort, isn't it? The last thing one tries after having tried all spontaneous methods and places such as the pub, hobby clubs, debate groups, ...

On the Aspergers forum where I post, someone brought up the idea for an Aspie dating site... Only a very few people showed interest, and that's on a forum where most members have difficulties with anything social. I have not signed up neither, it just seems so, well, forced.

Plus, dating sites are a playground of bored people who pretend to be someone they're not, and that way ruin it for the sincere lonely people on the site who put their last hopes in it.

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:24
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Re: Miss America pageant (big thing in the US anyway)
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But what is this particular Miss election about? I mean, there's Miss and Mister elections all over the world without anyone interested in it (apart from the contestants and their relatives) and surely even the most conservative Americans must be used to seeing women in bikini?! So why does this particular election get any special attention?

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:19
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Days of absence
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I just wanted to explain my absence during the last two weeks... It's not of my habits to let go of internet habits, yet I am going through a rather depressing period. I picked up councelling again, and it's a bit harder than I was hoping for. So if I'd be off-line for a few successive days, you know why and it's not like I am planning to stay away or so. Some days the energy is just not there to do anything, and if it wasn't for my job I'd probably spend most of my time in bed...

Not asking for any compassion here, just letting you know, as some may have wondered where I've been and what is the reason for possible further days off-line in the near future.
I am not planning to stay away or anything like that, you're not rid of me yet

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:15
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Stina Nordenstam
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Does anyone know the Swedish singer-songwriter Stina Nordenstam?

In Belgium, she is completely unknown. I first noticed her shortly after emigrating to Ireland. She is definitely not mainstream here, but she has a core following, and the records are sold in mainstream stores. Which is where she first caught my eye.

The sleeve pictures of her albums are truely amazing. They all have a glance of mystery. "Memories of a colour" has something melancholic yet at the same time idyllic for example, whereas her last album "The world is saved" has something tranquille yet also something eerie about it (a bit in the same way as the cover picture of Nick Cave's "Murder ballads", which also shows an inviting house in a dark grim decor)

I would now like to discover the music itself as well. Does anyone here know Stina Nordenstam, and which songs or album would you recommend to start off with?

PS: one of the reasons why she is not more famous, I learnt already, is that she never ever performs or tours. Yet that just enhances the mystery I'd say

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:11
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Re: Beatles or Stones?
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Ha, is there any music forum at all on which this question never comes up?

For me: Stones.

I think the Beatles are a highly overrated band. I grew up with their music, and did my best to like them, but it just doesn't work. I don't get the fuss at all. Their lyrics are rather weak, the vocals are nothing special either. The music is okay, but doesn't touch or trance me enough to spontaneously play them or to make me feel like listening to them over and over again.

The Rolling Stones however, have a few songs that I do spontaneously play. Ruby Tuesday, Paint It Black, 2000 lightyears From Home, Mothers Little Helper, Angie, ... are the sort of songs I miss in the Beatles discography.

So I vote for the Rolling Stones.

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:06
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Re: Great album covers.
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Definitely also these two, by Stina Nordenstam:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00002ZZI9.03.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://real1.phononet.de/cover/small/942/727/f89pp1vj.j31

The first one has the most beautiful colour shades and gives a very idyllic romantic impression, whereas the second one gives a rather eerie decor (just look at the look on her face and the darkness while the remote somewhat gloomy house is hidden in the background) while it somehow also has something warm and cosy. Difficult to explain. But definitely great covers.

Posted on: 2006/2/6 0:01
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Bauhaus reunion tour
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As Johan is at the Bauhaus gig at this very moment, here's my review from last Saturday's gig in Dublin:




BAUHAUS, The Ambassador, Dublin, 28/1/2006



As you all know, I am a fanatic Goth, both in terms of lifestyle and music. A Bauhaus concert meant a trip back to not only the early days of the Gothic subculture, but also to my early days of gothness.

I still remember it like it was yesterday. I was 19 or 20 and was on the borderline between commercial easy-listening music and the less accessible alternative stuff. It was clear that I would go either go one direction or the other. It was just as clear that I didn't find any excitement in pop music and commercial music anymore. I was tired of the easily accessible tunes with simple lyrics about the beauty (and sometimes pains) of love, about partying and getting drunk, about sunshine and beaches full of pretty women... I wanted something more, something that went beyond that pointlessness, some music that brought an ideology or at least some more in-depth lyrical content. Heather Nova had opened me up to alternative music three or four years earlier, and Placebo continued my fascination for alternative music, while my interest for mainstream music further slipped and slowly turned into disgust. I was looking for something that is more than just music, more than just a lyric and a sound. Well knowing that I was at an age where memories are formed and where usually the direction you take is the direction you stay in (if only because at a later age there's the youth sentiment of the music you decide to adept to) I had enough of mainstream music and searched something that suited me amongst the alternative range.

Then a penfriend told me about her gothic passion. Out of interest I checked some resources, and was quickly swamped by it. The gothic subculture was all that I was looking for, or so it felt. The darkness, the unlikeliness, the surreal aspect, the passion for the horror in literature in art but also for the true darkness (the darker side of life and of the human psyche), ... Things I always had an interest in, but somehow never met other people that shared that fascination. Then the gothic scene opened up to me and I was intrigued.


I remember the first time I checked pure goth music. I had listened to dark music for a few years already then (lyrically and musically) but the true gothic music was still unknown soil for me. On the web I read about the song that started the whole gothic movement: Bela Lugosi's Dead, by Bauhaus.
I somehow liked the song from before evening hearing a single note. The lyrics about a dark desolate castle full of bats that fly out of the bell-towers, the whole atmosphere of the lyrics alone stirred up my passion for the dark arts such as classic horror and gothic novels. The name Bela Lugosi even sounded a bit Latin-esque, which contributed to the mysterious character of the song (Bela Lugosi however is just the name of the first actor that gained worldwide fame by playing the role of Count Dracula)

I went to a shop then and listened to the song for the first time there. It was weird, but opened up a new world and a new fascination for me. The sound was gloomy, dark, mysterious, and then Peter Murphy's vocals came, as hollow and echoing as if it came right out of a deep cellar (or, to use a more goth-esque metaphor: a tomb !). I was intriguated and bewitched by it.

Since then I quickly went through more of Bauhaus' discography, got in touch with more and more people within the subculture, and went to gothic stores to purchase more gothness. The record sleeves alone were so fascinating, the whole look of the models and decors had a touch of surreality. Silke Bischoff (currently named 18 Summers) are my favourite gothic band, but I also got to fancy the likes of BlutEngel, Siouxsie & The Banshees, some early The Cure records, Sopor Aeternus & The Ensemble of Shadows, The Ghost Of Lemora, ...

So to cut a long story short: I had discovered the scene I felt good in, I found my musical direction and even a sort of direction in life (the latter is exagerated of course, but I also don't want to minimalise, as some of the nicest people I got to know since then were in the Goth subculture as well, so it actually brought some form of social contacts to me).
In the margins I also adopted the few elements of the style that I like: black clothing, and eye make-up. No fishnets or leather for me I was selective and only adopted the few elements that I like myself.




Anyway, Bauhaus all started it for me, so this concert brought a huge amount of nostalgia for me, even despite being 24 years of age only.

But, Bauhaus started it for, well basically the whole scene. Although there were artists, bands and songs before Bauhaus that would later be classified as close to gothic (Joy Division for one, David Vanian of the band The Damned is widely loved by Goths because of his vampire lifestyle, and even Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights" had a gothic touch to it), Bauhaus were the ones that really launched the gothic subculture. Without doing so deliberately, and of course they are more than just Gothic and used some other genres as well throughout their discography. But, it is just a fact that Bauhaus set the tone for the whole subculture and was a source of inspiration for almost all Gothic artists and bands after them. The song Bela Lugosi's Dead, a 9 minute gloomy epic full of horror sounds and introducing the "tomb voice" in music, is considered as the start of the subculture in many reference works.

Bauhaus were legendary, no doubt about that. They were the first band to deliberately create a horror atmosphere, during their gigs they used special effects such as stage lightning techniques to create a horror atmosphere, and there were the cuffins and Peter Murphy's Dracula-esque clothing. They were not the first to bring make-up for males into music (we have had glamrock in the early seventies after all, just think of Roxy Music, David Bowie and all that jazz) but they were the first band to make the horror look their trademark.
The music constituted out of monotome, inaccessible, slow, gloomy riffs, but sometimes also more up-tempo parts, however always in the same atmosphere of darkness. Bela Lugosi's Dead contains some sounds representing opening cuffins, flying bats and howling winds, all sounds simply coming out of Daniel Ash's amp, but it was far from their only song where experimental usage of the instruments and playing techniques lead to unique sounds.

So I can safely say (definitely given the many people in their thirties and forties that were in the audience) that I was not the only one having a feeling of huge nostalgia this evening.




Bauhaus had their highlights in the early eighties, when despite the inaccessability of their music they did reach a quite big crowd. Songs such as "She's in parties", "The passion of lovers", "Dark entries", "Hollow hills", "Terror couple kill colonel", "Telegram Sam" and the postpunk anthem "In the flat field" gave them a cult status that today hasn't changed: Bauhaus are still the most iconic band in the genre, and Peter Murphy is and remains the Godfather of Goth. Their cover of "Ziggy Stardust" even gave Bauhaus a mainstream success, but it was not enough to keep the band together.

In 1984 the band split, and Peter Murphy embarked on a solo career, while the other three members formed Love And Rockets + did some solo effords. Peter Murphy's solo work moved from the dark stuff to the more mysterious music full of middle-eastern influences, and his music is very hard to put a label on as it is quite unique and very diverse. Peter married a Turkish woman, moved to Turkey and converted to Islam. He is still a devote Muslim these days.

In 1998. the world saw a first Bauhaus reunion as the Resurrection tour and the releases of the compilation album Crackle and the live record Gotham came along. However, new material was not released and it seemed the reunion was a once-off. For many fans, including myself, a new reunion was a far-off dream. A dream however, that came into reality when Bauhaus reformed for the Coachella Festival and got the taste of gothness again there. A new tour, Near The Atmosphere, came and brought them to Dublin now. That the reunion seemed so unlikely for such a long time made it more special and unique to see the 4 original members on a stage again together, doing Bauhaus material.



The gig turned the area of the Ambassador (at the edge of Dublin's famous O'Connell Street) into a mass of gothness for one evening, as the surrounding pubs were also packed with people in black suits and medieval dresses... There was no support act, so we were offered the main dish straight away.

It all started with a long guitar solo from Daniel Ash. Bauhaus' brilliant guitar player looked as young and energic as always, however the peeky hair replaved by a pony tail gave one major difference with the Daniel we saw back in the eighties. Then Peter Murphy quietly walked on stage. Walking very slowly towards Daniel, staring at the crowd with a bit of an eerie yet relaxed look... We immediately got to see one of the core elements of this gig: the incredible charisma of Peter Murphy, whose eyes alone can create a surreal atmosphere. As Kevin Haskins and David J took their place, we were ready to kick off with Burning From The Inside.

The second song immediately got the crowd going, as Daniel opened the oh so recognisable riff that starts off the postpunk classic "In the flat field". During the American lap of the tour, amongst others during the New York shows, there were stories of Peter being not too interested in this new reunion. But I was convinced of the contrary straight away when Peter took the mike for In The Flat Field and got the crowd in an ecstatic mood. This time looking with a deeply penetrating horrifying look, as if he walked straight out of a Dracula novel, the crowd immediately got hypnotised by the beloved frontman.

The tone for the rest of the gig was set. The music and performances were excellent, the band felt like it very much, and the atmosphere amongst a thankful Irish audience was great, especially when Peter said that they never played Dublin before but that as a Murphy (refering to his Irish roots) it felt great to be back in Eire.

A few lesser often performed songs followed, including "A God In An Alcove", along with "Terror Couple Kill Colonel" and the classic "She's In Parties" which was opened by Peter performing the intro on an oriental-sounding sort of trumphet thingy as if he brought it straight from hid Istanbul home.

"Special effects by Lunatik and Drinks" is in the lyrics, but who expected an eighties-esque Bauhaus show full of light effects, had it totally wrong. The band created the eerie atmosphere without any special effects (not even by Lunatik & Drinks !) and the horror atmosphere relied solely on the enormous charisma of Peter Murphy.
The singer's slow walk, very calm movements, and sometimes eerie-relaxed look, then followed by an anxious deeply penetrating look, were the core elements of the atmosphere of the gig. Peter still got the touch! His whole persona, attitude and movements reminded of a vampire count in his dark remote castle, like in a horror novel from the eightienth century or like in the very early vampire films. Peter gave a superb performance ; to those who still doubt about it: his mind is 100% with Bauhaus and he gave the best of himself.

We then got Spirit, followed by another classic: the more danceable and slightly easier accessible The Passion Of Lovers, with a superb vocal performance by Peter.

The classics now followed in fast tempo, as we then got Kick In The Eye and an amazing Hollow Hills. The haunting atmosphere, the claustrophobic feeling of the song, Daniel Ash striking his guitar with a stick as if it were a violin creating the slowest darkest riffs, while the monotome bass sounds from David J gave the whole a very eerie touch. This is what gothic is all about, this is what makes Bauhaus such a legendaric band. It may feel like a deja vu now and of course it's been done a lot, but Bauhaus were the first ones to come up with this sort of music and that way inspired the goth bands of the nearly 25 years that passed ever since.

Also original was a first interlude, when the band did not leave the stage but just closed their eyes and stood still for minutes, while the audience screamed for more like when a band just left the main stage. The band quietly enjoyed the appreciation of the audience and gave what they wanted: more of the same! Dark Entries concluded the main part of the show, and then the band really left the stage.

But, there were two encores. The audience started screaming for Bela (Lugosi's Dead, obviously) immediately but had to be patient, as more songs came first in the encores (three encores in total), such as the rarely played Severance and All We Ever Wanted.
Bauhaus surprised the audience with a newbie: a cover of Joy Division's "Transmission". It sounded great, Danny's guitars were awesome and Peter's performance was a very nice tribute to the late iconic Ian Curtis. St Vitus Dance was thrown in a medley with this new cover. We then got a great Telegram Sam, and of course the Bowie cover Ziggy Stardust.

The band left the stage then again, but came back once more to give the crowd what they were waiting for all evening already: Bela Lugosi's Dead !
No Bauhaus reunion could be complete without this song, the first ever gothic song (well, that's what reference works say -- it's debatable of course) and the unofficial Gothic anthem. It was very interesting to see how all those creepy sounds were created with only a small keyboard-esque instrument, Daniel's guitar, and Kevin's gloomy bass tunes. The sounds were as incredible live as on record, especially the haunting wind sounds and the sounds representing the bats leaving the castle of the dead count. And then, once the long intro had passed, it was time for Peter for a last vocal highlight of the evening, as he once more told the story of the dead count while waving his red vampire cape, just like in the old days. The song was the ultimate highlight of what was a brilliant concert, unfortunately two more songs had to be cancelled off the setlist because the two hours of playing time were already used. Thus, "Double Dare" became the only classic not played.

It could not ruin a single bit of the atmosphere though. Band and crowd had a great night full of nostalgia, but also proving that Bauhaus is still alive and kicking and far from just a nostalgia act. The band was in great shape and Peter Murphy was terrific and highly profilic, the core of the whole show. However, Bauhaus proved how much they are a group efford. In some songs Daniel's guitars are more in the front, some songs are coloured by David J's basslines, but in general we can easily conclude that all four play their equal parts in what makes or breaks the music of Bauhaus. The music could not do without neither of their input, and during this show I realised well how everyone of them really contributes to the unique sound, even if one of the instruments is less dominant or up-front in a song it would sound completely different without it. Unlike some other bands where one member is the heart and soul of the band and reduces the other band members to background elements, with Bauhaus all four of them are very prominent in the sound.

The gig was simply excellent and hearing those unique sounds and realising in what time they were made, it's easy to see how renewing and experimental Bauhaus were back then, and how much they really set the tone for all gothic acts that would further form and define the genre. It's still a thrilling thought to realise that the four men I was staring at and the sounds I was hearing, were the very people and songs that started the whole subculture I affiliated to. I am very thankful that I could still experience this, because a year ago it was very unlikely that Bauhaus would reform again anytime soon, if it wasn't for a once-off invitation to play at Coachella Festival it may never have happened. I can only say thank you to Bauhaus, and I'm sure this feeling was something shared by everyone in the crowd.

An afterparty in Dublin's goth club Dominion completed what became a satisfying night. And luckily I have the chance to experience this legendaric band once again, as I am off to Berlin next week to see them again in the Gothic capital of Europe. Berlin will be a mass of black, and Bela Lugosi lives again more than ever! Berlin faerbt schwarz!!




Setlist:

Burning From The Inside
In The Flat Field
A God In An Alcove
In Fear Of Fear
Terror Couple Kill Colonel
Swing The Heartache
She's In Parties
Spirit
The Passion Of Lovers
Silent Hedges
Kick In The Eye
Hollow Hills
Rose Garden Funeral Of Sores
Stigmata Martyr
Hair Of The Dog
Dark Entries

Encore 1
All We Ever Wanted
Severance

Encore 2
Transmission - St.Vitus Dance - Transmission
Telegram Sam
Ziggy Stardust

Encore 3
Ziggy Stardust (reprise for a few bars)
Bela Lugosi's Dead

Slice Of Life
Double Dare

The last two not played as set was already about 2 hrs long.



Note that this was my first concert in a long time that I haven't been bothered by depression throughout the night, maybe that's why the experience was so overwhelming, I was really focussed on what happened on-stage.
Looking forward to Berlin now, where I will see Bauhaus another time!

Surely Johan can write a wee review from the gig in Brussels tonight.

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Don't forget there is no such thing as Bermudian citizenship with the same value as American or German citizenship. Bermuda is and remains UK territory (well, it's a colony to be precise) so anyone with British citizenship should normally have permanent access and permit of residence on Bermuda. Dito with the Falklands, St-Helena, etc - unless the colony has a special status within the British Empire.

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Re: toilet blurb for Dec.- last one!
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What is it with you and toilets?

You may like this: www.patches.net

I once accidently ended up on it and somehow remembered the address. I don't know if the site still exists, apparently it's quite notorious though.

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Re: Waht are your wishes for 2006
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Greenland is actually one of the 3 stations I work in.

The other ones are Petrol and Ice Land (no kidding).

Greenland itself consists out of Greenland, Western Siberie and Alaska (really).


So within the port, the stations are all named after countries and regions?

Interesting.



By the way, I forgot a very important wish of mine: more travelling !

Berlin is coming up, in April I go back to Manchester for an Aspergers Conference and Meet-up, and I hope to visit Edinburgh and the Hebrides soon. And of the close-to-home locations: Cork is a high priority.

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Re: Waht are your wishes for 2006
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The Vatican City will probably affiliate to FIFA soon. Tuvalu and Micronesia also want to join, and the same goes for the Isle of Man (but the latter may have objections from England)

In November the TR Northern Cyprus, Kosovo and Lapland already played a tournament as preparation for the upcoming alternative World Cup (North Cyprus won).
Greenland, Falklands, Isle of Man, Gibraltar already participated frequently in the Island Games' soccer tournament.

Vatican, Kosovo, Monaco, Gibraltar, North Cyprus, Greenland, Lapland, Tibet are certain participators of the alternative World Cup. Aland Islands, Falklands and Western Sahara are very likely to participate. In total approx 65 FA's showed interest in participating, which is a huge success



In the official World Cup I support Sweden, as only Scandinavian country present, but I'm not as fanatic as with Norway. I probably will watch sweden's games and check out Trinidad-Tobago and Togo, but apart from that I leave the FIFA World Cup aside and focus on the alternative World Cup.

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Re: best lyrics in a song
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Isn't this thread an exact duplicate of the 'lyrics of a song you love' thread?

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Re: Bands you miss.
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Siouxsie reuniting with her Banshees? Count me in for a few concerts then. Israel is a fabulous song, so bittersweet and melancholic.

Genesis may be touring as well again, apparently they seriously consider a new tour (with Phil Collins !)




As for bands I miss:

- The Smiths
- Siouxsie & The Banshees
- Silke Bischoff (well, they are still going, but perform very rarely, they're mainly a studio act and take too big breaks between albums these days)


That's about it. I guess with Echo & The Bunnymen I can be very glad my favourite band of all is still going after so many years.

I used to put Bauhaus in these lists, but my prayers were answered... Less than a month now till the gig in Dublin, I can hardly wait !

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Re: Heather's future songs
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I wish Heather would start swearing in her future songs. Her songs are good, but I feel that she is too "goody 2 shoes" now.


Or, maybe I'm just pure evil. Satan, Santa, close enough!


Maybe Eminem could write her a lyric. Heather Goes Gangsta !

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I would really like another Glow Stars/Oyster-esque album, or just a few songs bringing back the sound of those days. I really like what Heather does now, but still prefer the 'indie Heather'. A mixture would also be nice, but a few more rock/wave-esque songs would be a nice present for the long-term fans. After all, many of us were converted to HN fans in the Glow Stars/Oyster/Siren era.

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Actually I'm surprised you call this good news? This is why I am glad that, apart from Heather, all bands and singers I happen to follow are masculin. With female singers there's always the risk of them wanting a family, which always affects the career.

And the fact that so many women want kids while I prefer not to have any, already came in between some nice amoureus experiences for me

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Re: Tour 2006 confirmed
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No UK or Ireland dates? Why does she not come over here? I mean, 5 gigs in Belgium and not a single one on the British Isles?! She must really not like our green island

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Re: Waht are your wishes for 2006
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Bernd, the alternative World Cup for non-FIFA nations (incl Greenland, Falkland Islands, Kosovo, North Cyprus, Tibet, Lapland, Isle of Man, Gibraltar, Western Sahara, Vatican City, Monaco, ...) will take place next summer in North Cyprus.

I know a guy in the organisation committee so I get all news from first hand I will actually not watch the official World Cup too much, I find this alternative one much more exciting. I prefer discovering new countries' teams and fans, rather than watching the same old Brazils and Italy's of this world again. Certainly now that Norway has not qualified, I prefer watching the alternative WC over the 'real' one.

And, as a polar fanatic, I of course will support Greenland, and also hope Lapland and Falklands will do well.

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Re: And another one bites the dust...
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US is no civilised country IMO until they abolish this evil thing. The most disgraceful thing on earth it is. Mankind evolved for over 2000 years and we're still not past the "eye for an eye" thing. It's simply disgusting and makes my blood boil in anger.

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Re: Shit happens.... sometimes
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That's why I avoid internet dating

Imagine he already bragged about his new girl while talking to his mates in the pub... Then he visits the pub again and his mates ask how his "girlfriend" is... I wonder what he'd come up with as excuse

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Re: Waht are your wishes for 2006
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- getting my depressions cured (I started new counceling)
- I hope to enjoy Ireland to the full for another half year and also travel in the rest of the UK, then move to Scandinavia
- I hope to see Placebo and Heather Nova again and see the Bunnymen many more times
- I hope to see Muse and Indochine live, the only bands that I love that I haven't seen live yet
- I hope Greenland wins the alternative World Cup soccer for non-FIFA-members
- I hope Rosenborg wins the UEFA Cup and takes back the Norwegian champions title
- I joined an organisation for people with Aspergers and Autism and hope to make some friends amongst my 'own people'
- a girlfriend would be nice, though only in the right circumstances (I don't want to give up travelling)
- I hope Brazil does NOT win the World Cup soccer again
- I hope to get my website launched as soon as possible

and finally, some wishful-thinking/non-realistic wishes:
- that the US abolishes death penalty
- that the Smiths re-unite

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Re: Bermuda
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As one obsessed by islands (insularia it's called) and as a traveller in general, I'd like to join your pilgrimage. Plus, it'd be my most surreal groundhopping trip ever

It's quite an idyllic place actually. They're in the Warm Gulf Stream so there's quite many beautiful summer days and remote beaches... It should be quite conservative though, and not too much off-mainstream events take place, which is a general small/remote-island thing.

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Re: What are you listening to?
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U2 - The unforgettable fire
U2 - New year's day

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Re: Lyrics analysis
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Well, sure, we can have some lyrics analysis here as well, but I have this concept in mind:

- a forum with a subforum per style of music
- a topic per song that members want to analyse
- artists who come up very frequently could get an own subforum (I think of bands such as The Smiths, U2, The Cure, Black Sabbath, PJ Harvey, ... that all have several albums released full of lyrics worth looking into)

I think first of all the hobby deserves its own forum, cause not all people who are into this will come to HNN, also I think we'd overload HNN if we suddenly come up with tens/hundreds of song lyrics we want to discuss.

Well, this is just an idea of course. But if such a forum would not exist yet, I think it'd be a nice idea to set up one. But for that I need help, I cannot cope with that alone (a moderators teams is needed)



Also, if someone would come up with Heather Nova lyrics to discuss, this may lead to new fans (and indirectly to new HNN members !)

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Re: John Lennon...
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RIP

(and I say that as a non-Beatles fan who prefers Lennon-solo over the Beatles)

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Re: Heather Nova - Tour 2006
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Bernd, Baarle even has a piece of Dutch ground inside a Belgian lap of ground that on its own is surrounded by Dutch soil!

However, "city"?? The two Baarle's together are just a small village. I have visited the town. Don't expect anything that comes close to a city or huge tourist attraction.

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Re: The "no tour junkies" thread...
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Add me to the list, as there are no UK or Ireland gigs planned.

I'd consider travelling abroad for an 'electric' gig. But I'm not a real fan of these acoustic sets. I saw some gigs during the last acoustic tour, and I prefer rocking Heather rather than acoustic Heather. I skip this tour unless a British Isles date is added.

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Re: What song is stuck in your head right now?
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Wasn't it the year of the Macarena, or am I mistaking by 1 or 2 years? The same year there was a Brazilian indian band who had a song named "Tic tic tac", a Brazilian Amazone folk dance!

Time flies... Those songs seem like yesterday...

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Re: What song is stuck in your head right now?
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Which one by Whigfield? "Sexy eyes" had something catchy, despite her whole discography being commercial rubbish of course... Which was compensated by the looks of the performer

Whatever happened to her by the way? Never heard of her again after the mid-nineties... please tell me she made a nude calender

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Soft Cell - Youth
Soft Cell - Sex dwarf


Marc Almond's one of the most underrated singers and performers in my opinion. The man deserves more credit than he gets anyway, and it's a pity some people keep on linking him to nothing more than a gay icon.

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Re: Total solar eclipse on March 29th 2006
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I think you should try to stay more than 1 day. When else do you go to Libya (Heather won't play there ) so why not going a few days and discover Tripoli?

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Re: Great album covers.
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There was definitely a thread like this long before, and since all threads are archived it may could be re-opened... Ack, doesn't matter, it's a nice enough thread to dig out the favourite covers again

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Re: Great album covers.
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Well, those who wish to see them can copy-paste the URL's to their browser

Some more:

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000026ZHQ.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

NICK CAVE - Murder Ballads:

Eerie yet warm, the picture shows a desolate nocturnal forest with a small lonely yet lightened and shining house in the middle of the woods covered with snow. The photo kinda gives a good image of what to expect from the album: darkness with now and then a ray of light. In fact this lonely hut just as well be the perfect image of how the pub The Bucket Of Blood would look like (The Bucket Of Blood is the pub where "the bad motherf***er called Stagger Lee" murders the bartender in the second song of the album)

http://www.music-on-tnt.com/jpg/foryour.jpg

BELLE & SEBASTIAN - Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant:

somewhat mysterious because of the colour shades, somewhat friendly and secretly attracting because of the two pretty young females on the cover. It was my first meeting with Belle & Sebastian and knew nothing of the band than the mystery that somehow seems to lurk above this band. Somehow this cover had that same air of mystery, although maybe it was just because of my image of the band back then. Still, the cover had something that made me decide to give the album a try before even knowing the band somewhat.

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LIVE - Throwing Copper

Dramatic yet giving an impression of pride and grandeur, the picture reminds me of religious medieval arts.

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LIVE - Distance To Here

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MANIC STREET PREACHERS - Everything Must Go

This was the first album after the disappearance of Richey Edwards. The picture shows the tree remaining Manics with a very sad funeral-like face, while the title speaks for itself, especially with the ( ) below (we all know that's where the name of Richey would be filled in). The picture is very simple, yet leaves a deep impression to everyone who likes the Manics and Richey.

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Re: Heather Nova , saturday 18/03/2006, Roeselare , De Spil, Belgium
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Quote:

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Geert wrote:
On holidays?
I'm leaving Tuesday morning but i'll be back on Wednesday evening. So it's only a short trip to Spain, Seville. For football you see-)

His team won!


Unfortunately... So close th 0/36 points, that'd have been utter sensation!

PS: I have nothing against Geert or so (for all who'd think so), have met him a few times and he's a really nice lad with a passion for Heather and for football We just disagree on which team to support. I don't like Anderlecht...

Oh well, Rosenborg are still in competition after the winter break so you won't hear me complain

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I think such a thread existed already, but anyway.

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PLACEBO - Without you I'm nothing

What I like most is how a simple foto of two persons can express the title's deeper meaning better than any words. The deep bond between twins is something no one else can experience, and probably the deepest and most intense interhuman connection existing. This photo represents that feeling very well, and I like the colours as well.

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MARILYN MANSON - Mechanical Animals

This is the photo that first made me curious for Manson. The photo expresses the feeling of the album perfectly, as the whole album is about society's decay and how people turn into senseless robotic creatures. The photo is surreal and cold, and just a bit eerie because of the red eyes. Brilliant pic

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ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN - Heaven Up Here

A photo that represents the title of the album better than any poem or sentence could. Just a walk on a desolate beach, staring at the endless ocean, with a purple-red coloured sky. Heaven up here indeed.

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ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN - Crocodiles

Eerie, dark, nocturnal: the photo suits the music in EATB's early days, which was very dark and nocturnal as well. Look as well at the anxious look on Ian's face and how the tree he sits against happens to form the face of an evil bunny when looking at it from the right angle.

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ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN - Ocean Rain

Dark and mysterious, yet also representing purity. Beautiful picture for a beautiful album.

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As I told before, one of my hobbies is analysing song lyrics, trying to find the meaning or message behind a song and lyric.

I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a specific discussion group or forum for this, as I'd like to meet some people with the same interest.
Does anyone know if such a place exists on the WWW?

I'd also be interested in setting up one if there wouldn't be such forum already, but I couldn't do it alone (job + household !) so I'd need a few enthousiast souls to help out with it.
Of course it'd be easier to just join an existing board, but if there wouldn't be one I think the WWW needs one...

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