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Re: 2019-10-22 The Hague (NL) - Paard
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Might go. Not sure yet. Depends whether I am in town or out on a field trip.

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Re: What are you listening to?
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Agnes Obel - the Curse.

https://youtu.be/j1wgaFJ0750

(the viola player, Mika Posen, also has some interesting works herself, a few of which can be found on YT or Vimeo)

Posted on: 7/10 23:25
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Re: The elephant in the room
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I am not going to peel that off, or walk across the bridge to show you where I agree with you, and to which extend I agree with the Democratic political agenda and its effectiveness. All I can say is that it is obvious you have no idea where I stand politically, or what I am involved in these days (and I couldn't care less at this point), regardless whether my previous opinionated remarks were "right or wrong", "justified or not", "full with horseshit" etc. Which is my fault entirely - I have been absent here for years after all. I take no offense, but I just wish to express such offensive aggressive rhetoric on the personal level wouldn't have been my approach. But then, I am not you and you are not me.

So, enjoy the music!

Posted on: 7/10 23:05
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Re: Free Pussy Riot
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7 years on, and the situation in Russia has not become better (probably duly noted by most here).

Maria Alyokhina, one of the three Pussy Riot members that were detained in beginning of 2012, released a biography in 2017, Riot Days, and she has been touring around since then. I saw her show in the beginning of the year.

New dates have been announced, so if you are in for it, go and see it (for example 26-11-2019 Vredenburg, Utrecht). It is one long anti-Kremlin statement wrapped in music, rap and video. Texts spoken are translated on the projected screen.

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Posted on: 7/2 12:23
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Re: The elephant in the room
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Just kicking this while browsing through some of the older threads. While I am fully supportive of intellectuals and historians such as Tymothy Snyder, I think the bigger elephant in the room - for 2020 as well - is that the Democrats simply don't have their act together. Yes, there are a few members of congress, such as head of the intelligence committee Adam Schiff, or mayor and Presidential candidate Butigieg, but the broader issue is that the Democrats don't have a clear message anymore to attract those that have been social-economically excluded.

As for Trump being elected on an electoral minority, it has happened before. The Democrats have seriously underestimated the power of the Electoral College and the opportunities the Republicans had to find out the states and districts they needed to win. Calculated campaigning, and on a populist economic anti-globalist message that resonates with those that feel excluded from the neo-liberal economic order. Something that both Republicans and Democrats actively worked on, yet the Republicans took ownership of what should have been a Democratic political message.

Meanwhile, I expect Trump to win a 2nd term. My2 cents on this old threat, with hindsight.

Posted on: 7/2 11:59
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Re: What are you listening to?
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Generally I frequently pick up on the KEXP live recordings, which hosts quite some great little gems that I keep playing (certainly not all, but there have been quite some in the past)

Couple of things in the non-English have crossed my path recently:
The Israeli Jane Bordeaux, notably this song https://youtu.be/5t59s1sa1oc

During my past trip to Georgia I met a few of the band members of Vodka Vtraiom, a Georgian post-punk band - while at a cafe concert of Intervali, another underground band. A good friend of mine recorded a video for their last song. He is in the proces of making a documentary about Tbilisi's underground music scene.
https://youtu.be/Rqj_Ppci0Sc
(an adapted version is in the works, including video fragments of the ongoing protests - have seen it privately)

Dakh Daughters is a Ukrainian "freak-cabaret" collective, including members of another relatively well known group DakhaBrakha (both have performed at KEXP as well)
https://youtu.be/dlGjgIk3ha4

Posted on: 7/2 11:35
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Re: Next concert plans
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Just had a few concerts in December (Still Corners in The Hague, NL and Deacon Blue in Glasgow UK on the guest list w photo pass) but have one more to go in The Hague in January: Pussy Riot. https://www.paard.nl/en/event/pussy-riot-theatre/

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When one goes through the tapes...
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Haven't been here in a while, my last post going back to 2011! Happy new year to everyone still around!

Was going through the last few tapes that I have, and found an unmarked tape with an HN concert on it. Deducted it to the June 26th 2002 Tilburg 013 [Netherlands] concert due to some details I remembered of that concert, before finding the master MiniDisc. Which leaves me in mystery why a copy existed on cassette tape anyways!

Anyways, can't find much about it anymore. Is this floating around somewhere digitally - apart from my own master MiniDisc? I also have a whole pile of cd's stored for a decade in a box, that I started to filter (what to keep and what not! - or which cdr's have survived the age of time and which not ) but can't find it there. Strangely enough.

And last but not least, finally checked the few minutes I video recorded with my phone a year ago.


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Re: Tell me one good thing that happened today
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Hoe gaat het met je?

So... I did my good thing today.

Posted on: 2011/8/9 18:14
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Re: What would you like to do someday?
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Being somehow meaningfull in conflict resolving in the Caucasus. Working in an NGO. working on it.. .. but yet a long way to go I think.

Posted on: 2011/8/9 18:13
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Re: Heartfelt thoughts for Europeans (and especially Norwegians)
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There are not too many people on the earth as it is right now, it is all about how they deal with each other.

The bombing in Oslo is one thing, like many happen(ed) in the world unfortunately, the shooting in Utoya is one dimension farther: it is a direct attack on democracy as we know it today. An assault like that on a summer camp that unites young people in their desire to contribute actively to a prospering democracy is just unheard of in modern Europe. We have united Europe after the ruines of WW2 on the theme: agree to disagree, and respect each other in fair freedom to have different views, politically, religiously, on life and how to live life. Now many politicians in Europe that spread a similar message [verbally] as this Norwegian guy, who all can thank their voters [mind you!!] for their political seats, wash their hands clean that this is not what they wanted. Well.... my question was and still is: what do you want? How to de-islamize Europe?

Again.. these politicans do not have the answer to the problem they create themselves... A problem that should not even be a problem, if we think about what I said before how we have united Europe. If islamization of Europe is a problem then how to stop it [i suppose that should be a legitimate question for these kind of people], and take care about de-islamization? How do you get rid of millions of muslims? I suppose with making islamization of Europe an [unwanted] issue as if it were actually happening as a process [which is disputable if you ak me], there would/should a certain desire to do something about it among those people... but how, is never **really** taked about [except a few side kicks, like burqa ban, minaret ban, trying to discourage immigration - like all these really address the "created" probem]. And the one and only obvious answer when put forward by critics is treated like a Godwin type demonization by leftist people ['the other evil people next to muslims']

Anyhow.... I foresee tough times for Europe that go beyond the question if there are too many people, or how we treat animals. As it is, the underlying sentiments that motivated this guy has already spread among the European voters. "It is all because of the social democrats who are branche holders of the sharia" is in short how many people in Europe think at this point. At this point however, they see the action of this guy as "not the way". But then, 15 years ago, the retorics of these people were also not accepted, and now they are salon-faehig.

It is all just a matter of time until the verbal witch-hunt is put into actions.

Depressing as it may sound...

Posted on: 2011/7/26 12:09
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Re: 300 days at sea
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It's a delight listening to the cd... really.

Posted on: 2011/7/13 22:26
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Re: Crossing Border Antwerp 19/11/2011
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Bernd: You don't like Gavin Friday?

Den Haag is not a cheap city, and apparently getting close in beating Amsterdam for accomodation expenses. Rotterdam might be an alternative, and trains run all night (not from Central Station anymore, but from the other main station, Hollands Spoor)

I went to see Heather Nova at the Crossing Border years ago, when it was a drop-out year in Amsterdam. It was about 45 minutes performance, maybe up to 60. Can't remember exactly. A mixture of readings from her (then new) Sorrowjoy and songs (about 5 songs, and probably 10 poems)

Posted on: 2011/6/20 15:36
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Re: Giving up Facebook, MySpace etc.
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It's not a matter of needing it. Everybody can live without everything except food and water. It is a matter of "being interested" (or not).

And as for games and status.. what the heck, it is not even remotely what I use FB for, nor is it compulsory. .

Posted on: 2011/5/11 15:22
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Re: 'Violent Sky' - new album from Lisa Miskovsky
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ah, nice, I like Lisa Miskovsky. Had no idea a new album was out.

Posted on: 2011/4/21 13:10
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Re: Nuclear Energy
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Obviously.

Reducing the energy consumption per capita (in the so called developed world) should be the target though, as we are and will be facing an enormous hike in energy consumption in the lesser developed parts of the world, where the majority of the globe's population lives, due to their rapidly increasing welfare and use of electrical luxury goods.

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Re: Nuclear Energy
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We can make this very long, bottomline is - if we want that nuclear power will be obsolete, in such a way that we can only rely on natural non-fossil (emission neutral) energy sources we ALL should reduce our energy consumption.

And not just placing a few energy-saving bulbs... but seriously reduce our energy consumption, I mean seriously. That also means throwing out most of the electrical appliances, like your cool iPad (ironically such energy wasting i-tools are popular with the so-called progressive green minded people) And going way much beyond that. It means really stepping back in time when it comes to our dependence on amenities.

If we are not prepared to do that, then the rest is just hollow talk.

Posted on: 2011/4/19 10:13
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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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What about the polygamy ban in most Western states?

Let's not take this discussion in a bigger scope than it is. Let's take this to our own cultural heritage: a ban on a burqa specifically, or even generally, has nothing to do with complying to our so called christian-judeo-humanistic traditions (that we try to protect). Polygamy however, goes against our European traditions - a ban on polygamy makes sense, a ban on a burqa not. From the perspective of cultural traditions - the level you are trying to take me with the polygamy. If I am not mistaken. Not saying I cannot live without a polygamy ban. That is another case, and way off here.


a person in a burqa is visiting a public women's toilet/restroom, let's say at some train station. Doesn't this offend the other women in this toilet/restroom? They cannot see if this really is a woman, or maybe some male voyeur.

Typically a sign of our lack of trust in people these days. Understandably. However, I think we can easily say that at least in Holland we have more transvestites (think Amsterdam) than burqa's.

Various restroom voyeurs have been caught in recent years, were they wearing a burqa, now they still can? What will a ban prevent in all these cases?

Also, this is typically trying to apologize rulings based upon all sorts of less likely scenario's. When are you going to start demanding certain bans based upon the profiles of pedophilia? I think this is a much bigger problem of concern than the possibility that you will find a burqa-dressed man in a women's restroom. For christ's sake, George Michael is more dangerous (and embarrassing - read: paparazzi) for us hetero males to meet in (or near) a men's restroom.

I find this looking for scenario's a sign of the end of a discussion. I used different words on the previous page (but I have the same sentiments now), so I try to put it more politely now.

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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Cassander said:

The essential point of our positions is that this law is unnecessary and targets one small group for their religious beliefs. This is what is so outrageous and unacceptable.

I think this pretty much sums it up.

Also, as I have tried to illustrate through a couple of posts which no-one could really dismiss the proposed laws are in relation to existing options for the authorities redundant, and as such unnecessarily, and possibly for many simply offensive.

But apparently the last is not an issue. That is an issue when someone speaks a little too blunt....

Let me just add, that I do not support special privileges for religious people, whichever religion they have. We should all be treated the same, regardless religion, have the same right and plights. Putting a ban on certain traditional or religious clothes is in someway restricting people in privileges that are general : Freedom of dressing how you like up to a certain minimum. Although the ban would strictly speaking make no difference between religious or non-religious people, because it addresses a specific dressing style, People who are not part of this religion would not seriously consider wearing this anyways (let alone student jokes etc)

By putting up a ban one is doing the opposite of giving privileges based on religion. For me giving privileges or taking away rights primarily based upon religion or religious traditions is one and the same intolerable.

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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I think my diction and my last point is misunderstood too. but alas... let it be.

All I can say that in order to so called "liberate" muslim women (without actually ask them one by one), we tolerate sup/repressing the freedom of dressing in our countries by national laws, a suppresive attitude that is also applied (albeit on reversal motives) in many countries in which we don't like that limitation on freedom.

That's all. As a liberal person, i have difficulties in accepting this paradoxal tolerance of supression, although I respect everyone's personal opinion, but that does not necessarily mean I understand it or can unify it with our modern western liberal ways..

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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Because there are probably 1000 ways to dress for a woman. In France, still 999 are allowed. In Iran, I don't know exactly, but I guess not much are allowed. Maybe 50? In Afghanistan during the Taliban era, only 1.

This is hilareous, or hideous. And in fact I can't believe you are actually suggesting it. So the principle doesn't matter, but the number in which it is applied.

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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And you have ignored the fact that the woman is not recognizable on speed ticket photos. Same rules for everyone.

To forbid covering a face while driving is a reasonable law. So what do you do when someone is wearing a balaclava in the care, and you have a burqa banned instead?

and to motivy your pro-ban with the fact that somebody might have the guts to actually go to court... hell... you really are at the end of your wits.

It is anybody's right in any case, always, in our western society to tempt the application of the laws by going to court. Making obsolete rules / laws under the banner of anticipating on the possibility that an offender might go to court to check the validity of the legal offense is really utterly desperate.

you are now startng to sound like a typical citizen who bases his opinion on incidents. We have 1 million musslims in Holland. Just a handfull at max have tried to test their empoyers demand to take off their scarf (one was applying as court-secretary or there abouts). No one succeeded by the way.

How is that speaking on weighing in numbers?

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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I think the right not wearing burqa (but everything else) is more important than the right wearing burqa.


Then you do not believe in freedom of choice, but in telling other people what their freedom should be according to your opinions.

Now tell me in simple words how we tend to call that kind of people.

What is your logic that we need a ban anything different than many (islamic) laws in say Iran?

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Also, the biker in your example with the helmet would most likely put his helmet down.


How do you know? And why do we not have a ban on Balaclava's? They are more used for criminal purposes, than for the original purpose it existed for. That can be statistically proven is my guess.

Also your claim that the biker will think about it next time... Maybe, maybe not. Some people are notorious speed offenders. Why? Even after multiple court sessions, and tickets of hundreds of euro's, they do not get discouraged. What do we do with them? We just let them be, and give them a ticket next time, over and over again.

A bank robber is not likely to politely reply to the police officers request to take off the Balaclava and identify one another. You agree with me? So where are the legal measures based on the using-profile ? What do we do with the bank rober who gets arrested for legal and criminal offences? What is the difficulty in the current laws to apply the same rules to anyone else who refuses to identify him/herself? In Holland you get a ticket if you cannot identify yourself upon request (f.e. don't have the papers with you), and if you do not co-operate in identifying, you simply get arrested.

So, again, we are not talking about the fundamentals (and complete measures) of the matter but merely swimming on the surface of picking on one group of people because we feel uncomfortable with them (or threatened by hem). Well, in my opinion that is simply not enough to ask for legal measures.

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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So?

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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@BErnd - why i mention dress codes at work has also to do with certain work positions in which a burqa or similar could be considered undesired.

For many people who want a burqa banned, it is also an important issue, that they dont want to see these people in work like that.

Also for this we do not need a national ban for a piece of cotton, as it is a possible regulation within the job, just like with other ordinary already existing and accepted measures on dress code. In otherw ords, if employers consider certain islamic dressing in whatever variation (like a burqa) something undesired (because of representation issues) we do not need extra laws on that, as it can already be addressed in existing options.

Besides, it (aggreements on dress code) is in my opinion an agreement between employer and employee (or workers union for that matter). The state has no place in that position in my opinion.

In Europe many people want nowadays a smaller state/government, except when it comes to immigrant "issues" then suddenly our government influence in our life cannot be big enough.

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When a male policeman asks for my ID card and looks into my face to see if I am really the person I pretend to be, why should a women wearing burqa having the right to refuse this ID check, just because the policeman is male?

I for one think that this woman is in the same position as a biker who wears a helmet.

Do you have any information that the plight to identify oneself to a police officer by showing the full face is below the right of religious conviction to not show the face?

Do you have any indication that this will hold in court? If so, for that reason we can change the laws, and I think it won't be as hard to pass that through parliaments, and it will not contradict human rights conventions, like a total nationalized ban onm wearing a burqa at all would do.

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women's rights

because you think you free some women, you want to suppress other women in their freedom of choice?

I call that a paradox of liberating women.

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As far as I understand you, you would have not much problems with a law that says this woman can wear whatever she wants (including burqa), but she has to take off her full veil when being asked by a policeman for checking her ID, for example, as also male policeman should have the possibility to see her face and compare it with the photo on her ID card.


Yes, I agree with that. In fact, this would be the only way to go. This is also the only way you can get enough understanding and support within the euro-muslim community. It respects both sides in their needs and desires.

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The woman in the interview would still not unveil her face. So what to do then?

In that case she can be arrested and punished appropriately for refusing to identify herself.

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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@Bernd

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Do you have a picture, or some key word for google, so I can find more information about this?


Martin gave some explanation about some aspects, but not quite what I meant. I did not mean the political participation, but just like with muslim women, the social pressure from within the community under which women have to obey to a certain dress and physical code.

Just like the Orthodox Jewish women quoted in the Open Democracy article, albeit it being less fully covered. The point being the social pressure of a community to wear certain clothes. Exactly the point we hold up to moslims. We do not however apply this to our own culturally backward people. That is where I have problems with, because it proves we are notr talking about women liberalization as such, we apply different standards to different people, under the motive of : "this is part of our own cultural heritage, and that is not". We have a word for that - hypocrisy

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Well, a death penalty is more than all that. It's a ban of the complete life.


Yes, but it is related to another thing alltogether.
Now you try to make death penalty a reason not to look at other aspects of a general American notion of liberal values - values of personal freedom that are guaranteed in the constitution.

Don't understand me wrong, I am not in favor of death penalty, but the USA applying it does not disqualify this country in other aspects of certain liberal attitudes. And yes, a lot can be said about how certain US citizens think about religious issues, or sexual orientation related issues.

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Ask people in US, not me.

Sure. Cassander?
Anyways, I think partly it might have to do with the more conservative religious life many have in the USA. They do understand what religion can mean for someone. That is my guess. In Europe you see that many Christian Democrats do not favor this hardline anti-islam stance at all.


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I think this is just not practicable, making an endless list where it is allowed or where it is not allowed (for whatever reasons).


No, nobody has to make an endless list. (some if not all) Gasstations here already demand to take of the bike-helmet. For obvious reasons. In other words, there is already a provision available through which companies, or locations can locally demand a visible face. Don't make it sound tougher than it is.

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As I said, this is not practicable to me. There would be endless discussions where it is allowed and where not, and why, like on one street it is allowed, on the other street it isn't allowed, in this building it is allowed, in the other building it is not allowed...


See above. And to take it to the work situation:

what is impractible for you? The dress code for sales manager, cleaning lady, nurse, lawyer, train conductor, and so on?

Again, don't make life sound more tough.


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How do you know? Can you look in each person's brain?

No, but how do you know there is not a bomb in a backpack, and it is more likely to be under a burqa? To take it to one concern many people apparently have?

The recent bomb attacks in Europe (of the last 10 years) that can be attributed to muslims (not counting other numerous terrorist attacks) - was a burqa involved, or other means, like backpacks? So where are the measures?

So what is the reason to ban a burqa from the streets totally? I haven't seen one come by that sounds worthy of European liberal and rational values. But who am I to judge what is rational and liberal, right?

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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@Bernd, I knew that one was coming, sometimes people are very predictable, once one mentions USA in a positive manner. Funny. Death penalty has nothing to do with bans on personal freedoms of conviction, religion, dress, reading, opinion. So there you confuse a few things. Obviously there are very conservative people and areas. Just like we have our own conservative bible-belt in Holland. That said, there is a general notion through the constitution about certain liberties. How come in USA there is no one in governmental bodies asking for burqa bans? They dont have muslims there? They could not be affraid for extremists or so called fundamentalists?

Really, there is no reason to call for a general nationalized legal ban on pieces of cotton (yes, i rationalize clothes to just that). Like I said, if desired at all, this should be a matter between employer/employee or just a local ban for security reasons if applicable - like I said, in the case of gasstations where it is already general code that one should take of their helmet. That could also be applicable in other security sensitive areas like banks. In that case there would/could/should if not already there be a code that says that face covering is not allowed.

Really, our national or federal laws in European countries already provide for such measures, including employer freedom of applying dresscodes, or local ordnances in security senstive areas that one should be identifiable by face. We don't need a specific legal ban on a burqa to address a few issues we could have in public or work space.

A national legal ban on a burqa is only meant to target and limit specific people in their constitutional freedoms not based on horizontal profiles, but on vertical profiles. It is xenophobic and it has nothing to do with coming up for women rights as some claim. I can talk for my own country where dutch-reformist women always have long hair and wear ankle low skirts among other things by means of family pressure. Where is the women-rights fight for that by means of legal rules?

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Re: Should France ban women from wearing clothes?
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Well, anyone who supports a legal ban on a piece of cotton should wonder him/herself is he/she if not looking at the world in black/white.

Yes, for me this really touches a fundamental issue on personal freedom. So, it can be black/white, just like it is for many. Really, why not introduce the Judenstar?

And to say a ban is something for women rights... tsk. That is just anothetr half hearted philantropic excuse, coming from the real motive : fear.

On top of that, making all these islam things an issue only makes these things a stronger point of identity. So you will see it will only work contraproductive. People will start to wear things just to identify themselves more strongly.
Sorry, but many Europeans really are shortsighted when it comes to these groupdynamics, and have no clue what they are playing with.

Take liberalism to your heart and look at the USA.

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Re: 2010 tour all dates
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can't make up my mind really. But I think I will go for convenience (read: close to home). Delft and Leiden.
Thinking about Den Bosch.

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It can be so simple really, but Europeans are getting themselves worked up too much about nothing. Let me say that as a European. This does not have a good end, in the end. It never had in history, and too many are just too blind.

Anyways, I don't believe in big governments who will tell people what they can wear. It sounds like the totalitarian statehood we thought we were relieved of since 1989.

Apparently that is actually what many Europeans want with their xenofobic nitwit heads. Sorry, but one cannot be blunt enough to such people.

A burqa calling dangerous because u dont know if there is a bomb under it, well, it is just as dangerous with any dress, or any backpack. Be straight with things.

People should have freedom to wear what they want, up to a certain minimum. In public places like gasstations and so on, for security reasons it is not allowed to keep helmets on, so one can easily extend that to anything that covering the head.

No problem. Same with dresscodes at work. Salesmanagers often have to wear a suit, so heck, employers can ask other dresscodes too. No problem. If thet dont allow a burq, fine with me. It is a private deal between employer and employee. Or between a workers-union and an employer.

No big deal.

But let governments, by means of national law, stay out of that. It is totalitarian, and whoever doesnt want to see that... well... at leats they cannot claim they are liberal, and staing for individual freedom.

Posted on: 2010/7/18 20:25
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Re: Germany v. Netherlands
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Obviously this is just an academical question now.

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Re: The financial Euro crisis
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Then say what you mean

There is something to say about being able to kick countries out of the EU. I would klnow quite a list...However, there is also a veto right, anyone with a bit of brain could understand what will happen if a country would be tried to be voted out. Obviously the current EU treaties do not facilitate in both the fact that a country could be kicked out, and that a country cannot veto a measure against itself.

Since a lot of people (citizens/taxpayares, choose your applicable style of wording) in the EU are not quite positive to any form of democratic change in the EU, for example, ruling out the undemocratic veto-power, I do not see a positive change happening any time soon.

Now, Greece... they are suckers first class for sure.

But let's also not forget the role of German and French governments when the Dutch Duisenberg ruled the ECB. Both these governments have frequentely pushed over the financial criteria we have made appointments about with each other in the EMU. For example, no budget deficit higher then 3%. Both these countries have passed this on succesive years, leading to at least warnings, and maybe even a fine (not sure about it).

Now, these 2 countries proposed at that time, due to their own lack of urgency and sense of common criteria, to change and bend the criteria !

Yeah right !

Now, that is not so bad in good times and so on, but you see what you get, with flexing the rules we made with each other for SOME purpose. The weaker countries see that some big players play and flex the rules, and think on their own... if they can do it, and get away with it, why shouldn't we , with some creative accounting??

Again, as a strict Dutch man on this, I think that germany and France should stop bullying EU rules for their own sakes when it serves themselves.

Now we pay the price that other countries followed taht example.

I hope that finally Germany and France take a lesson from this, and stop being the arrogant big players making their own rules. For the sake of all of us.

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Re: October 15th 2010 - Leiden, The Netherlands - Leidse Schouwburg
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@BErnd: my point being... select a random non-international theatre in a little town in Germany, and ask the same questions.... Let's say, googlemaps ehm.. in Ulm.

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Re: October 15th 2010 - Leiden, The Netherlands - Leidse Schouwburg
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>> No need to translate it for me, as I don't want to go to Leiden. I just wanted to understand the procedure.

this "lottery" does not only concern Heather's concert. It is a pre-sale action, a general promotional campaign, on the whole theatre-season, which starts in september 2010. Like I said, this whole action is specifically targeted at local customers. It does not specifically exclude foreigners, they have simply made choices in the general set up of the IT support.

Now, go to the Strassbourg EU-Human-Rights court and file a complaint.

"Het is niet mogelijk online te bestellen met een buitenlands rekeningnummer. Wij verzoeken deze gasten een email te sturen naar kaartverkoop@leidseschouwburg.nl"

The payment system they included does simply not provide in foreign bankaccounts. It has nothing to do with refuting foreigners. Send an email to this email add.

You could also just phone/email and ask their IBAN number.... just an idea fokes.

And, again, this is just PRE-SALE. There hasnt been any promotion yet.

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Re: October 15th 2010 - Leiden, The Netherlands - Leidse Schouwburg
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geez - what a fucking fuzz about what?
Get your asses together fokes, try to order a ticket in Greece, and experience EU.

Wait until 1 may. Last concert of Heather in Den Haag I bought extra ticket one day before the actual concert.

This concert is for Dutch fans primarily anyways, and to adjust IT systems by spending the little subsidy they get these days on it, is the wrong way for a theatre to use their subsidy resources, when their primary audience is local anyways.

Think about it and stop crying like a baby.

As for Paradiso, which gets more international audience, there is the facility nowadays to buy the "lidmaatschap" online together with ticket. And Bernd, the lidmaatschap is alos sold at Paradiso. When the doors open you can buy it.. it is a 1 minute action. Did it so many times, and never lost my place down at the stage.... Going to the loo or hang your coat takes more time. Really.... I find this too absurd to hold such grudge.

It may sound strange, but there are events in paradiso that are "freely" accessible with this lidmaatschap. In fact, Paradiso organises cultural events partly with the money raised from the lidmaatschap. It may be an old fashioned construction, yet again.. why make a fuzz about some little things that add flavor to the locality? Want an EU that is the same everywhere?

Besides, because of this construction of membership, Paradiso is a closed "vereniging" which means they can get more subsidy, apparently. In exhange for this little payment, the drinks are fairly cheap compared to the bars around Paradiso.

Cultural organisations are being strained in our political climate in Holland and they will be in the future more and more strained from subsidies, one way or the other they will have to keep their pants dry, and make priorities... among which is that a local city theatre may not offer 100% service to foreign EU citizens.

By the way - ask yourself the same questions on some stage theatre in Bayreuth or in Bastogne.

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Re: November 1st Groningen (Netherlands)
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edit.. hmm, didn't read good.

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Re: October 15th 2010 - Leiden, The Netherlands - Leidse Schouwburg
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wow, that's near.

I hope the next announcement will be "Heather in Diligentia"

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Re: October 5th 2010 - Den Bosch, Netherlands - Theater aan de parade
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but in lack of any details.... they probably got some instructions how to call it in the meantime

I am curious too, which dates will arise. I lived in Den Bosch long time ago, and went to the Parade a couple of times "sunday morning cinema brunch". Nice place to see Heather, but more near would be more convenient.

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Re: What movies have you watched recently?
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@Anke: I will go next year again.

Recently saw "A single man" in the arthouse cinema in Den Haag. It was one of the movies I wanted to see at the IFFR in Rotterdam, but all screenings were booked out for the online quotum, so we had to miss that one at that time. It was great, especially the photography and the combination of time related styling. Furniture, house, dressing etc. Great sense of detailing. The acting was good too. Julianne Moore is getting old... .. ok older.

Didn't see much noteworthy for the rest recently. Some old John leCarre spymovies from the 60s.

Watching Lost at the moment at home, so that is how we fill the evenings :P

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