some people can split themselfs in 3

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what about jelger and me?

just got back from the concert (yes i'm a bit late, but so was i last night, when i missed the last train home; phoned my mom who picked me up in utrecht; was at her place at 3 am). i met dennis in utrecht and had a drink with him while waiting for my mom.
i had a great time and see some of you tonight

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They are very different, but there are people who have them both.

Telling you all this has several reasons.
First of all, telling people about it helps me to accept this condition I have.
Secondly, by telling people about this I’m "excusing" myself for things I might have promised to people but didn't do because I forgot about it (and that happened a lot lately, although I don't think I missed to many things here.)

When i'm not forgetting to come i'm seeing a few of you tonight or tomorrow

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This is a windows update (see my post above).If you have an illegal version of windows you´ll get this message after having installed this update.

or even better :
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=921914

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see mail

you can´t reserve for dutch trains just for the trains to/from belgium and germany

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most adders are very good in hiding it (creativity), but i'm also hiding my emotions and problems.

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they think that 5-10 % of the people have it and as long as you can "deal with it" it's no problem (i'm 33 years old and till a year ago not to many problems with it). most people have some of the things sometimes, the biggest problem is when you have most of the problems the hole day (i.e. forgetting everything, being chaotic, not being able to concentrate (not "finding" the hyperfocus)) etc.

this "illness" is hereditary(?), there is no cure for it (just medication to help you to concentrate (this is a medication whitch looks a lot like speed ). the main reason why i'm telling this to some people around me is to explain why i'm doing things the way i do them and that if i didn't do it i probable forgot to do it (i ask everybody to email me questions if they've called so i get remembered when i get back home)

For more than 100 years, extremely hyperactive
children have been recognized as having behavioral
problems. In the 1970s, doctors recognized that those
hyperactive children also had serious problems with
“paying attention.” Researchers in the 1980s found that some children had severe
problems in paying attention, but little or no problem with hyperactivity at all.
That’s when they started talking about two types of Attention Deficit Disorder:
with or without hyperactivity.1
Con fusin g labels for AD/HD
In 1994 the name of the disorder got changed in a way that is confusing for many
people. Since that time all forms of attention deficit disorder are officially called
“Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder” after which a comma appears. After
the comma, a subtype is specified:
• “Predominantly Inattentive Type” for someone with serious inattention
problems, but not much problem with hyperactivity/impulsive symptoms;
• “Combined Type” for someone with serious inattention problems and serious
problems with hyperactivity and impulsivity; or,
• “Predominantly Hyperactive/Impulsive Type for someone with serious
problems with hyperactivity/impulsivity, but not much problem with
inattention.
Even though these are the official labels, a lot of professionals and lay people use
both terms: “ADD” and “AD/HD.” Some use those terms to designate the old
subtypes; others use ADD just as a shorter way to refer to any subtype.
What We Know 8 ad/hd predominantly inattentive type
Inattention Sympto ms
In the DSM-IV, the diagnostic manual of the American
Psychiatric Association, there is a list of nine symptoms
of “inattention” problems.2 Almost everybody has some
difficulty with some of these sometimes. Persons who
qualify for a diagnosis of AD/HD have at least six of
these nine symptoms and suffer significant impairment
as a result. This means that daily functioning in two or
more of the following areas is significantly disrupted:
school, work, family or social interaction.
• Often fails to give close attention to details or makes
careless mistakes in schoolwork, work, or other
activities
• Often has difficulty sustaining attention in tasks or
play activities
• Often does not seem to listen when spoken to directly
• Often does not follow through on instructions and
fails to finish schoolwork, chores, or duties in the
workplace (not due to oppositional behavior or failure
to understand instructions)
• Often has difficulty organizing tasks and activities
• Often avoids, dislikes, or is reluctant to engage in
tasks that require sustained mental effort (such as
schoolwork or homework)
• Often loses things necessary for tasks or activities
(e.g., toys, school assignments, pencils, books, or
tools)
• Is often easily distracted by extraneous stimuli
• Is often forgetful in daily activities
Because the DSM-IV diagnostic criteria were originally
designed for children, the following questions have
been developed from those criteria by the World Health
Organization3 to ask adults about whether they suffer
from AD/HD inattention symptoms:
1. Do you often make careless mistakes when you have
to work on a boring and difficult project?
2. Do you often have difficulty keeping your attention
when you are doing boring or repetitive work?
3. Do you often have difficulty concentrating on what
people say to you, even when they are speaking to you
directly?
4. Do you often have trouble wrapping up the final
details of a project, once the challenging parts have been
done?
5. Do you often have difficulty getting things in order
when you have to do a task that requires organization?
6. When you have a task that requires a lot of thought,
do you often avoid or delay getting started?
7. Do you often misplace or have difficulty finding
things at home or at work?
8. Are you often distracted by activity or noise around
you?
9. Do you often have problems remembering
appointments or obligations?
Individuals who have significant chronic impairment
from six or more of these symptoms are likely to have
AD/HD if they also meet certain other criteria for
diagnosis that are specified in the DSM-IV.
Doesn’t everybody have problems with these
inattention symptoms sometimes?
Yes, these symptoms of inattention are characteristic of
everyone sometimes. Only persons who have significant
impairment most of the time from these symptoms
warrant a diagnosis of AD/HD. If someone currently
has significant impairment from at least six of these
inattention symptoms and little or no hyperactive or
impulsive symptoms of AD/HD, they are likely to
qualify for diagnosis as having AD/HD, predominantly
inattentive type. An individual can have little or
no impairment from any hyperactive or impulsive
symptoms and still fully meet DSM-IV diagnostic
criteria for AD/HD.4
What if someone was hyperactive in childhood, but
has only attentional symptoms now?
If someone is currently impaired by at least six of these
inattention symptoms and at least six of the hyperactive/
impulsive symptoms, they are likely to qualify for the
diagnosis of AD/HD, combined type. If they experienced
sufficient impairment from hyperactive and/or impulsive
symptoms when they were younger, but now are
impaired by inattention symptoms of AD/HD with little
or no problem with hyperactivity, the current diagnosis
would be AD/HD, predominantly inattentive type. It
is common for hyperactive children to become less
hyperactive as they get older; for those with AD/HD, the
“…some children [have] severe
problems in paying attention,
but little or no problem with
hyperactivity at all.”
What We Know 8 ad/hd predominantly inattentive type
inattentive symptoms tend to persist and may become
more impairing as the person encounters the challenges
of adolescence and adulthood.5,6
Are the inattention symptoms of AD/HD constant?
Are these persons inattentive in everything they do?
No, though the inattention symptoms must be
chronically impairing for a diagnosis of AD/HD, this
does not mean that they are constant in everything the
person does. Everyone with AD/HD has a few types
of activity in which they are able to function quite well
without much trouble from their usual inattention
symptoms. They might be able to concentrate very well
when playing a favorite sport or video game. They might
be good at maintaining focus for a long time when
watching TV shows they like, doing art or building Lego
models.
When asked why they can pay attention so well for these
favored activities and not for other important activities,
such as school or work, they often explain that they
can pay attention easily on activities that are interesting
to them, but cannot make themselves pay attention to
tasks that do not really interest them, even when they
know it is important. This makes it look like AD/HD is a
willpower problem, but that is not the case.4
Can a person be smart and still have AD/HD?
Yes, AD/HD has nothing to do with how smart a person
is. Some individuals with AD/HD have very high IQ
scores, others score in the average range, and others
score much lower. Often individuals with AD/HD who
are very bright are not recognized as being impaired with
AD/HD symptoms. Teachers and parents and clinicians
often think they are just being lazy or unmotivated or
bored.7
When can a person with predominantly inattentive
type AD/HD be recognized and diagnosed?
Children who have AD/HD with hyperactivity are
usually recognized and diagnosed in preschool or
early elementary school grades, especially if they are
disruptive and difficult to manage. Most individuals
with AD/HD, predominantly inattentive type are not
recognized until later when parents or teachers notice
that they are having a lot of difficulty staying focused
on tasks, or remembering what they have read, or in
keeping up with their work in school, homework or tasks
at home. Sometimes these inattention symptoms are not
noticed until a student gets into middle school or high
school where they must deal with multiple teachers and
many different classes and assignments daily.8,4
Can a person have AD/HD, predominantly
inattentive type and never be diagnosed until they
are older adolescents or adults in college or at work
or raising a family?
Yes, sometimes a person’s AD/HD impairments have
been blamed on laziness or lack of motivation for many
years. Until recently, very few teachers, psychologists or
other doctors had been taught to recognize symptoms of
AD/HD, predominantly inattentive type. Often parents
recognize their own AD/HD impairments only after they
become more familiar with the disorder as their child
has been diagnosed with AD/HD. To qualify for AD/
HD diagnosis, at least some of the AD/HD symptoms
should have been present sometime in childhood or
adolescence, even though they may not have been
recognized at the time.9,5
Can girls and women have AD/HD, or is it just a
problem for males?
Studies show that for every three boys diagnosed with
AD/HD there is at least one girl who has the disorder. In
adult samples the ratio of males to females is almost one
to one. It appears that girls are often overlooked because
they tend to have AD/HD, predominantly inattentive
type more often than the combined type. This means
that girls with AD/HD are less likely to be recognized
as having AD/HD because often they are not being
disruptive enough to call attention to themselves.10,11
How is AD/HD, predominantly inattentive type
diagnosed?
There is no one blood test, psychological test,
computer test nor brain imaging test that can make the
diagnosis of AD/HD of any type. Adequate evaluation
requires a comprehensive clinical assessment done
“AD/HD has nothing to do with how
smart a person is. Some individuals
… have very high IQ scores, others
score in the average range, and
others score much lower.”
What We Know 8 ad/hd predominantly inattentive type
by a psychologist, psychiatrist, pediatrician or other
professional trained to recognize AD/HD and other
learning or psychiatric disorders that may mimic or
accompany AD/HD. The evaluation should include
an intensive clinical interview with the child or adult
suspected of having AD/HD. For children or adolescents,
parents should be included in the interview and
information from past and present teachers should be
reviewed. In addition, for all ages, a medical examination
is important to rule out possible medical causes for
AD/HD symptoms.7,12,13
For adults, it is usually helpful to include a spouse,
friend or someone else who knows the individual
well. In addition to the interviews, standardized rating
scales for AD/HD and DSM-IV diagnostic criteria for
AD/HD should be utilized; there should also be careful
screening for other possible disorders, especially learning
disorders, anxiety and depression. As with children,
there should be a medical examination to rule out
possible medical causes for AD/HD symptoms. This
is especially important for adults who may have more
medical problems and may be taking more prescriptions
that might cause AD/HD-like symptoms.7,5
What treatments are usually helpful for children
or adults with predominantly inattentive type
AD/HD?
Until recently, most of the research on AD/HD
treatments was done only on children or adults with
combined type AD/HD. More recent studies that
included predominantly inattentive type indicate
that medications approved by the U.S. Federal Drug
Administration (FDA) for treatment of AD/HD tend
to work well for a substantial majority of those with
predominantly inattentive type.14,15 Details about these
medications and the careful medical management
they require are included in the What We Know #3,
“Managing Medication for Children and Adolescents
with AD/HD” and What We Know #10, “Managing
Medication for Adults with AD/HD.”
In addition to medication, anyone with AD/HD
also needs education for themselves and their family
about AD/HD and its treatment. Some individuals
with predominantly inattentive type also benefit from
accommodations in school such as extended time
for tests or more frequent feedback from teachers.
Behavioral interventions to improve organizational skills,
study techniques or social functioning are also helpful
for some. For others, carefully managed medication
and education about AD/HD may be sufficient. Most
individuals with AD/HD, predominantly inattentive type
function quite well when they are receiving appropriate
treatment.16,17,18
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hyperactivity: a review of the literature.” J. Learning Disabilities
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2. American Psychiatric Association (2001). Diagnostic and
Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text
Revision. Washington, DC, American Psychiatric Press.
3. World Health Organization (2003). Adult Self-Report Scale
for ADHD. www.-int/en/.
4. Brown, T. E. (2000). Emerging Understandings of Attention
Deficit Disorders and Comorbidities. In Attention Deficit
Disorders and Comorbidities in Children, Adolescents and
Adults. T. E. Brown, Ed. Washington, D.C., American
Psychiatric Press: 3-55.
5. Weiss, M, Hechtman, L.T., & Weiss, G. (1999): ADHD
in Adulthood: A Guide to Current Theory, Diagnosis and
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6. Biederman, J., & Mick, E., et al. (2000). Age-Dependent
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The information provided in this sheet was supported by Grant/
Cooperative Agreement Number R04/CCR321831-01 from the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The contents
are solely the responsibility of the authors and do not necessarily
represent the official views of CDC.
This sheet was approved by CHADD’s Professional Advisory
Board in September 2004.
© 2004 Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit/
Hyperactivity Disorder (CHADD).
For further information about AD/HD or CHADD,
please contact:
National Resource Center on AD/HD
Children and Adults with
Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
8181 Professional Place, Suite 150
Landover, MD 20785
800-233-4050
www.help4adhd.org
Please also visit the CHADD Web site at
www.chadd.org.


source : http://www.levente.nl/Engels.pdf

p.s. sorry for the long post

Hi everybody

It’s been a long time since I’ve been here, but I want to explain why.

I probably have add (google if you want to know more) (it a lot like adhd but without being hyperactive)

Because you are born with it, it’s nothing new, but I just found out due to some personal problems in my life for the past 2 years (i.e. lost my job, parents divorced , quit smoking, grandparents are both ill and last but not least my father remarried (with a woman 18 years younger than he is (she could be my sister)) on my birthday and telling me a week later).

For now I’m waiting for the diagnose and the treatment (but this can take up to 1 year), and till then I have to get thru. (one good thing is that I don’t need to look for a job till than)

A few of the problems I have these days:

- I’m having trouble concentrating
- I’m chaotic
- I’m forgetting everything (including what I was doing and where I was going)
- I’m feeling a little depressed because of all things happened
- I’m having problems with telling things (exchange 2 words in 1 line or mixing up 2 words)
- I’m having problems with numbers (i.e. 78 and 87)
- I sleep bad due to to much thinking
- Etc.
- Etc.


But it has some good things to.

Ps it took me about 35 minutes to write this because:

- I got myself another drink
- Went to the bathroom
- Checked my mail
- Read the news on the internet
- Read on the forums
- Thinking what and how to write something
- Etc
- Etc

If anyone has questions feel free to ask them, but don't get mad if i don't answere them right away

Erwin

ps for the people going to the concerts in the netherlands, i'll be there too, but it's possible i'm "gone" every once in a while.

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new record?

i'll be going to the hague and eindhoven

Thanks everybody

got mine too

if you want you still can use my server. pm me for details if your interested

so i just missed her (left a few minutes earlier ); just in time to catch the last train (had to run for it )

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and groningen

i'll be going to amsterdam

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it's back and the a'dam gig (pepsi stage)too

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not anymore

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her parents, sister and brother are gone, they told me she will be taken care of by her aunt.

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she will be taken care of bij her family.

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and the one who told her about this place

thanks for your sympathy (?). the funeral was this morning so i'm a bit down at the moment. and yes gerd, there was a 2 year old girl who survived the fire, she is physical ok, but still in a shock.

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johan, she was the girl standing next to me

I don't now how to feel now; lost a friend, her husband and 2 of there 3 children last saturday in a fire (most dutch people probably heard/saw it on the news).

http://www.omroepbrabant.nl/news.aspx?id=53911

(sorry dutch only)

there are more peolple with the name sabine

with thanks to sabine:

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happy, going to listen to redbird (the album) in a moment

i'll be going to utrecht

happy belated birthday bernd

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(forgot to look at the date/time of the original post (still on wintertime))

happy belated birthday anke

i hope to go to utrecht and groningen

thanks everybody

happy belated birthday chris

happy belated birthday cass

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"eng" in dutch means "scary" in english.